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10/03/2008 @ 20:05:21: Mustang "Hatchback"?
Is there any benfit to list the category on some second and third generation (1974-1993) Ford Mustangs as "Hatchback"? Most are already classified as coupe, which I would think is more appropriate, but there are a handful categorized as hatchbacks. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&makeMatch=2&make=&modelMatch=- 1&model=mustang&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&class10=10
Would it be correct to consider them more of a liftback or fastback even though the rear glass window does lift open with a function similar to hatchback?
There was a discussion here: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_4595-Ford-Mustang-1990.html

Doesn't hatchback imply a car with more of the shape like these with a more nearly vertical rear window? http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_56587-Honda-Civic-1984.html or http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_42646-Volkswagen-Golf-Typ-1J.html

Also, the 1982 Collector Edition Corvette and all C4 Corvettes have a rear glass hatch which opens also, but those should definitely be classified as coupes, right?
http://web-cars.com/corvette/1982-2.php (3rd picture down) and http://web-cars.com/corvette/1984-2.php

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10/03/2008 @ 22:30:17: Mustang "Hatchback"?
what is the actual difference between liftback and hatchback? and about coupés and hatchback i think we have a problem, when can we consider a car an actual coupé and when just a hatchback?
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10/03/2008 @ 23:27:31: Mustang "Hatchback"?
Lots of coupé-shaped hatchback are usually called and listed as coupé.
As Wampa-One said, usually the hatchback has a more vertical rear window. Those considered as coupés have a sportier appearance. See VW Scirocco vs Golf/Passat...
I do not know what is best for the Mustang, but I would agree with coupé.

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11/03/2008 @ 01:36:30: Mustang "Hatchback"?
See? but the problem is still there, that of "Those considered as coupés have a sportier appearance" is very relative... in some cases it is probabaly clear but its not always clear when a car has a sporty appearance or not...
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11/03/2008 @ 09:59:39: Mustang "Hatchback"?
It is not clear but that does not mean that we have to list them in both categories :grin: We have to make a choice.
Same for other "hybrid" cars like Chrysler PT Cruiser (wagon/hatchback) that we finally list as wagon, or many crossovers for which SUV, hatchback, wagon or MPV could fit.

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11/03/2008 @ 19:47:41: Mustang "Hatchback"?
I think on the Mustangs up to the mid-late 80's there should be since there were coupe Mustangs and there were fastback/hatchback Mustangs. In the 90's weren't they all just the fastback/hatchbacks.

Coupe: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_27164-Ford-Mustang-1987.html
Hatchback: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_21157-Ford-Mustang-1987.html

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12/03/2008 @ 00:05:56: Mustang "Hatchback"?
I'd list all Mustangs as coupes. That's obviously what they are, as opposed to compacts/superminis and non-sedan family/executive cars.
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03/04/2008 @ 14:13:18: Mustang "Hatchback"?
For me there's a problem, that on American films a lots of common two-door sedans are listed as coupés, such as Saab 900, Toyota Corolla, Datsun 210 and such.
For me, the coupé is the car with low, sporty roof, with small +2 rear seat, or no rear seats at all. But these cars, like the 900, have normal roof and room in the rear seat for three people.
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03/04/2008 @ 17:34:28: Mustang "Hatchback"?
Indeed a coupé is supposely a 2-seater, or 2+2 at most (or 3-seater, like the Matra Bagheera & Murena :grin: )
Usually I reclass the SAABs to hatchback when I see one as coupé, but I did not made that systematically for all.
But some 4-seater hatchback are really considered as coupé rather than hatchback, see for example the VW Scirocco (hatchback being the Golf) or the Renault 15/17. But those have a more "sporty roof" than the SAAB 900 maybe, so it would be compatible with what you mention? (despite the number of seats)

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03/04/2008 @ 20:04:16: Mustang "Hatchback"?
17 and 15 clearly coupés, so is Scirocco.
But Ford Falcon is not.
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_60944-Ford-Falcon.html
A Coupé Falcon is called Mustang :wink:
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04/04/2008 @ 11:41:07: Mustang "Hatchback"?
I agree that this is a 2-door sedan, not a coupé.

Since long time I wanted to make a post on the forum explaining what to put in each category, maybe it would be the time to do it then.
In the same way, a better definition of the "supermini" category would be useful. I usually put in that the cars that are less than 3.5m length, bigger ones going in sedan/coupé/hatchback categories.

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