Subject: [General] Which do you prefer?
Point 3 is not acceptable, at least for me, so it will never happen as long as I am the "main admin"
(and anyway I guess that most of the admins are against that).
At first the site was made for point 1. The side "moved" to point 2 "naturally" as there are many cars without a role that are still well worth mentioning.
If I add a filter for background vehicles you can get something close to the two first points together (i.e. choosing to display or not cars that do not have a role).
But then some background cars with a role but still background cars (we had few that felt in that category) are not visible in the mode showing only cars with a role.
Latest Edition: 27/09/2007 @ 19:42:59
(and anyway I guess that most of the admins are against that).At first the site was made for point 1. The side "moved" to point 2 "naturally" as there are many cars without a role that are still well worth mentioning.
If I add a filter for background vehicles you can get something close to the two first points together (i.e. choosing to display or not cars that do not have a role).
But then some background cars with a role but still background cars (we had few that felt in that category) are not visible in the mode showing only cars with a role.
Latest Edition: 27/09/2007 @ 19:42:59
I am on the fence between opt 1 & 2, because what is rare on IMCDB may not be so rare in the physical world, and I am more in favor of displaying complete examples, at least one each, of every make and model per year of production. If this is a shared goal, I would financially support any necessary capacity increase in bandwidth.
Latest Edition: 29/10/2007 @ 04:38:49
Latest Edition: 29/10/2007 @ 04:38:49
I disagree with the third point, we are not going to add any car we see in a film, simply because what we want with this site is that if a person comes to the site and looks for a movie (well not neccesarily a person but also us, the current users) that person can see the cars that appear in a movie so, what is the point of saying that five kilometres far from the main character theres a Fiat Panda passing by if when you are watchign the movie is not appreciable at all??
I think that is a bit what Sixcyl looks for in his movies, so he can show people, or actually for himself, every tiny car shown in a movie, which i dont really know what the point of that is, in a picture it is hardly visible so in the movie..., its ok that in some cases we add an a-bit-far car because we can clearly know it is very rare and although being that small we can recognise it, so we should not fill the pages of unworthy cars, adding every car shown, always it is well visible and recognisble its ok for me.
Latest Edition: 29/10/2007 @ 11:12:30
I think that is a bit what Sixcyl looks for in his movies, so he can show people, or actually for himself, every tiny car shown in a movie, which i dont really know what the point of that is, in a picture it is hardly visible so in the movie..., its ok that in some cases we add an a-bit-far car because we can clearly know it is very rare and although being that small we can recognise it, so we should not fill the pages of unworthy cars, adding every car shown, always it is well visible and recognisble its ok for me.
Latest Edition: 29/10/2007 @ 11:12:30
I'm between options 1 and 2 but if I have to choose then it's option 1. I like to see a movie page with all 2-5 star vehicles listed + few background cars.
We are listing more and more movies and car models that were rare at some point are becoming more common now. Therefore I think it's quite useless to list very small background pics of common cars of the era (Peugeot 404, Citroen D etc.).
We are listing more and more movies and car models that were rare at some point are becoming more common now. Therefore I think it's quite useless to list very small background pics of common cars of the era (Peugeot 404, Citroen D etc.).
We can list background cars (even if G-MANN does not like that) but no cropping and no zooming. Cars must appear as they appear on screen. The site is not just a car list, it must also keep the "in movies" part.
If it is too small then it is just too small, and probably not worth mentioning.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 17:49:55
If it is too small then it is just too small, and probably not worth mentioning.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 17:49:55
How about we create a new star listing, "1/2 star", given to any car that is either completely irrelevant to the basic mis-en-scene of the movie and not something that stands out (like something expensive or rare or very noticeable), and we set up film pages so these "half star" cars are listed on a seperate page, people can look at them if they like by clicking on a link, or the page setup can exclude them unless the viewer selects an "All cars" option (like the way you can filter 3-5 star, 2 star and 1 star cars in the page setup. This way sixcyl and other like-minded contributors can still add these "extreme background cars" but they won't clog up the standard page for people who aren't interested in seeing EVERY car that passes by the camera, if they are, then they can still view them.
Only problem is it could take ages to re-rate all the extreme background cars as "1/2 star" cars (personally I think the main admins should do all the movie's they've added, there's no way poor antp could be expected to go through the entire site doing this by himself). This could put an end to the whole Background cars debate and satisfy everyone!
If there's anything you don't quite understand in the main paragraph, I'll try and re-explain it (I'm not I've managed to explain my idea in the best way possible).
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 20:19:49
Only problem is it could take ages to re-rate all the extreme background cars as "1/2 star" cars (personally I think the main admins should do all the movie's they've added, there's no way poor antp could be expected to go through the entire site doing this by himself). This could put an end to the whole Background cars debate and satisfy everyone!
If there's anything you don't quite understand in the main paragraph, I'll try and re-explain it (I'm not I've managed to explain my idea in the best way possible).
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 20:19:49
Rather no star then for these.
But if such rating is added, this should not depend on the rarity of the car. Just if it is a background car having no real interaction but still a place in the movie, or a real background passing-by car.
You suggest that admins should do that for cars that they listed, I do not see what would be the other solution: it is like for the others ratings, it can not really be guessed correctly from the pictures.
And I disagree of allowing to list every car that passes the camera, it fills the database and disk, so it is not because we add something to hide these that they should be allowed.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 21:03:07
But if such rating is added, this should not depend on the rarity of the car. Just if it is a background car having no real interaction but still a place in the movie, or a real background passing-by car.
You suggest that admins should do that for cars that they listed, I do not see what would be the other solution: it is like for the others ratings, it can not really be guessed correctly from the pictures.
And I disagree of allowing to list every car that passes the camera, it fills the database and disk, so it is not because we add something to hide these that they should be allowed.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 21:03:07
And I'll add that it is not easy to say if a car is a random background one or not.
Few examples:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_12609-Ferrari-360-Spider.html => for me these are random background cars, for the other member they are intentionally put there.
And in many movies the background cars driving in the streets are driven by actors... cf http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_67794-Triumph-GT6-1973.html
I am not really sure that adding such extra rating is a so good idea. If the problem is the "really too background" cars, adding such rating is not the good solution as these cars should not be on the site.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 21:08:53
Few examples:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_12609-Ferrari-360-Spider.html => for me these are random background cars, for the other member they are intentionally put there.
And in many movies the background cars driving in the streets are driven by actors... cf http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_67794-Triumph-GT6-1973.html
I am not really sure that adding such extra rating is a so good idea. If the problem is the "really too background" cars, adding such rating is not the good solution as these cars should not be on the site.
Latest Edition: 30/01/2008 @ 21:08:53
If the problem is the "really too background" cars, adding such rating is not the good solution as these cars should not be on the site.
Well I thought it might a be way of stopping too many far too background cars cluttering up pages while keeping those who want add as many background cars as possible happy. But if you say these "too background" cars should NOT be added at all, then I'll forget this idea, and EVERYONE else should take note.


















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